i think a player like t.j. lang of the packers might be fined because he also unleashed a stream of profanity directed at the nfl, roger goodell and the owners, they might be able to go behind that but as far as the basic free speech stuff that's been going on, i think the nfl even though in normal times they might fine or discipline players for this, they won't in this case because i think that there's a shame factor that they've proven this week they can't get beyond. >> isn't there also a larger contigous context. the league has tried to, in the last couple of years elevate its concern publicly for player safety and the concussion issue is looming out there. but with -- you have players taking notes and describing it as deadwood or i've heard players describe it as oz or completely uncontrolled out there. issues of this safety and player safety would i think, be placed in a different context. the nfl, i think, over time, realized they were walking themselves into another environment possibly where their liti